---
title: 'Episode 174: Dr Rodney Rhode - From CLS to MLS: A Journey In Standardization And Advocacy'
type: 'episode'
url: 'https://doc.social/episodes/episode-174-dr-rodney-rhode-from-cls-to-mls-a-journey-in-standardization-and-advocacy'
show: 'People of Pathology Podcast'
show_url: 'https://doc.social/podcasts/people-of-pathology-podcast'
published: '2024-03-11'
audio: 'https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/sfn97y/Dr_Rodney_Rhode_20248psz7.mp3'
---

# Episode 174: Dr Rodney Rhode - From CLS to MLS: A Journey In Standardization And Advocacy

On this episode Dr Rodney Rhode discusses his involvement with the ASCP's Blueprint for Action to address workforce shortages in the laboratory. He highlights the efforts of various organizations to create solutions and improve the situation, emphas...

## Summary

On this episode Dr Rodney Rhode discusses his involvement with the ASCP's Blueprint for Action to address workforce shortages in the laboratory. He highlights the efforts of various organizations to create solutions and improve the situation, emphasizing that the workforce challenges existed prior to COVID-19 but were exacerbated by the pandemic.

Dr. Rhode explains the importance of aligning titles and credentials across different organizations and programs to create a unified identity for medical laboratory scientists. Transitioning from various titles like CLS (Clinical Laboratory Scientist) to MLS (Medical Laboratory Scientist) can establish a clear and recognizable identity that reflects the rigorous education and critical role these professionals play in healthcare.

The process of standardizing titles and credentials involves collaboration with professional organizations, regulatory bodies, and educational institutions. Dr. Rhode shares his journey of leading the effort to change the program name at Texas State University from CLS to MLS. This two-year process involved collecting data, engaging with faculty, alumni, and students, navigating institutional procedures, and obtaining approvals at various levels within the university.

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[_Workforce in the Shadow of Healthcare –An Update on the Survival Status of Laboratory Medicine and Public Health_](https://biomedres.us/pdfs/BJSTR.MS.ID.008604.pdf)

[Facing Massive Labor Shortage, ASCP Committed to Expanding Medical Laboratory Workforce](https://www.ascp.org/content/news-archive/news-detail/2022/10/07/facing-massive-labor-shortage-ascp-committed-to-expanding-medical-laboratory-workforce)

[The Clinical Laboratory Workforce: Understanding the Challenges to Meeting Current and Future Needs](https://ascpcdn.s3.amazonaws.com/static/ISTP/Siemens_Clinical+Laboratory+Workforce_Blueprint.pdf)

[Aligning Educational Program Titles to the Medical Laboratory Science Career](https://youtu.be/UyTVxvuakOk?si=FUOHINIZat5J3rie)

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