---
title: 'Episode 32: Dr Neil Theise - Liver Pathology, Interstitium, Complexity Theory, and More'
type: 'episode'
url: 'https://doc.social/episodes/episode-32-dr-neil-theise-liver-pathology-interstitium-complexity-theory-and-more'
show: 'People of Pathology Podcast'
show_url: 'https://doc.social/podcasts/people-of-pathology-podcast'
published: '2020-10-26'
audio: 'https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/r53m34/Dr_Neil_Theise_-_10_25_20_611_PMacw8x.mp3'
---

# Episode 32: Dr Neil Theise - Liver Pathology, Interstitium, Complexity Theory, and More

Today my guest is Liver Pathologist Dr Neil Theise.What we discuss with Dr Theise:How he became a liver pathologistHis work in redefining the microanatomy of the canals of HeringThe paper he coauthored in 2018 on the interstitium, and some of the imp...

## Summary

Today my guest is Liver Pathologist Dr Neil Theise.

What we discuss with Dr Theise:

- How he became a liver pathologist

- His work in redefining the microanatomy of the canals of Hering

- The paper he coauthored in 2018 on the interstitium, and some of the implications of that work

- Complexity theory and the self organizing universe, and how they relate to pathology

- The concept of Beginner's Mind

Links for this episode:

- "Structure and Distribution of an Unrecognized Interstitium in Human Tissues" in [_Nature_](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-23062-6)

- "Meet Your Interstitium, A Newfound Organ" in _[Scientific American](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/meet-your-interstitium-a-newfound-organ/)_

- "The Canals of Hering and Hepatic Stem Cells in Humans" in _[Hepatology](https://aasldpubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/hep.510300614)_

- Self Organizing Universe on [Youtube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1ZGcWGRxKg&feature=share)

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